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Heeding Dr. Sandman's advice on swine H1N1 risk communications

I just read a Tweet from my buddy Mike Coston, aka FLA_MEDIC, blogger of great repute at Avian Flu Diary. He mentioned an article in Nature by Dr. Peter Sandman, one of the world's leading risk communication experts. I encourage you to follow the link and read it now. I'll wait.

OK, welcome back. Didn't that all sound familiar? Having deja vu? that is because it sounds similar to my blog of April 28th, titled Mixed messages, cafeteria-style preparedness won't cut it in swine flu fight. In that blog, I cover many of the same themes. But Dr. Sandman puts things much more succinctly and with much greater gravitas than I ever could.

I met Dr. Sandman in February 2007 in orlando at the CIDRAP pandemic conference. The man and his work are both highly valued and woefully underutilized, I am afraid.

The thing I most remember about then-HHS Secretary Mike Leavitt, a former governor of Utah, is his suggestion -- painfully repeated over and over and over again -- that the easiest way to stock up for a pandemic was "When you go to the store to buy tuna, for every three cans you buy, get a fourth and put it under the bed." Overall, the entire Bush Administration message on pandemic preparedness was (uncharacteristically) clear, sensible, and sage. It was borne of Bush's own reading of John Barry's seminal work The Great Influenza," THE history of the 1918 pandemic.

President Obama's administration seems to have completely disregarded the role that concise risk communication must play in effective management of a flu pandemic. The role of individual responsibility needs to be played up, not downplayed in favor of "nothing to see here, move along." the American people can take it: Tell them exactly what they need to hear. Especially the part they never want you to hear: government can do very little to ensure your personal safety or health during a flu pandemic. That itself may be anathema to their way of thinking, but the truth is the truth.

From Dr. Sandman's article:

Richard Besser, the acting director of the CDC, isn't understating the risk. He says he is "very concerned", but expresses his concern with a soothing bedside manner. He doesn't have that rumpled, exhausted emergency-manager look that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission's Harold Denton perfected in the 1979 Three Mile Island crisis. Denton left people feeling that the risk was serious and that they were in good hands. Besser says it is serious but leaves us feeling that he doesn't want us to worry much.

Still, I don't fault Besser for looking and sounding reassuring. Good crisis communication means saying alarming things in a calm tone, and he is doing exactly that.

The problem is that he isn't giving us anything to do except being hygienic. He keeps telling us, accurately, that the CDC is being aggressive in its response to the outbreak. But he is not asking the public to take further action. He needs to urge citizens, schools, hospitals and local governments to follow Leavitt's advice.

Instead, we have a surreal situation in which the federal government has released one-quarter of the Strategic National Stockpile of antiviral drugs, so there will be enough oseltamivir (Tamiflu) to deploy to millions of sick Americans. But it hasn't yet asked those Americans to stock up on tinned fruit and peanut butter.

It's time to talk peanut butter, tuna and bottled water. But not for swine H1; for any calamity. As I said in my late April blog:

So what should we be telling people? We should be telling them to prepare and to learn more about influenza. I am not talking about the Romero-esque TV commercials that the Ford Administration ordered up during the 1976 swine flu scare. I am talking about telling people to get their "hurricane kits" or "earthquake kits" restocked and brought up to speed. It is time to re-educate the American people on previous pandemics and previous near-misses, such as 1946 and 1951, with viruses that were also H1N1 but were much more virulent and, some thing, either swine-like or were actual swine influenzas that jumped the species barrier back in the day.

Telling people to buy one to two weeks' worth of food, water and medicines to prepare for hurricane season -- an annual hit-or-miss proposition with a clear historical precedent of occurrences -- is not considered folly; it is considered prudent.

Great minds think alike.  Thank you for a great article, Dr. Sandman.

New York Times' McNeil: Older Americans may be immune to Swine H1N1 flu 

Well, well, well. It is always nice and gratifying to have a theory confirmed by the mainstream media and the flu experts.

Let me explain: A few weeks ago (April 26th), I blogged that our current swine H1 might be a relative of the same virus that appeared in 1946-47 and 1951. I also proferred that theory to one of the world's top influenza experts via email. Trust me on that: It is literally a matter of public record.

Now comes an article written by the New York Times' Donald McNeil Jr., who is to the U.S. what Helen Branswell is to Canada when it comes to infectious disease newspaper journalism. In it, Mr. McNeil quotes Dr. Daniel Jernigan of the CDC, who states very clearly that informed opinion is coalescing around a theory that pre-1957 H1 successfully conferred immunity to now-older Americans.

The Times article is somewhat incomplete. It insinuates that all H1 was pretty much the same following 1918, just getting more and more diluted. If you look at influenza textbooks of the past twenty years or so, however, what actually happened is that an event of great significance produced much more severe epidemics of H1N1 in 1946-47 and 1951. It has been postulated that swine H1 might have crossed the species barrier in those epidemics, or a random mutation/mutations changed the gene segments just enough to cause some above-average morbidity.

Among influenza circles, debate still rages (that is a relative term, as "rages" for them might be a "harrumph" or a discreet rolling of the eyes) about whether or not 1946-47's epidemic was in actuality a real pandemic. There are considerable arguments on both sides, and I have seen the words "1946-47 pandemic" in print on more than one occasion, in more than one text. What is known is that some seminal event occurred that rendfered the seasonal vaccine for that year completely useless. The link atthe previous sentencewill take you to a study conducted by the living influenza legend Dr. Edwin Kilbourne on that very vaccine failure.

While quite possibly a pandemic, the 1946-47 epidemic produced huge spikes in morbidity, or illness. What it did not do, however, is kill a lot more people statistically. That was reserved for the 1951 epidemic of so-called "Liverpool flu."

The 1951 Liverpool flu epidemic was a terrible killer of people, strangely enough, in the English-speaking world. In the scientific paper 1951 Influenza Epidemic, England and Wales, Canada, and the United States, researcher Ceclie Viboud and others describe the impact that strain of H1 placed on Britain and North America. In some sections of Britain and the US Northeast, the case fatailty rate for 1951's H1 was worse than 1918-19!

We are used to uttering two words when discussing influenza antigenic mutations: Drift and shift. Drift is what happens when a virus makes copies of itself (badly). Shift is what happens when a major reshuffling of influenza genes takes place. Shift is what makes pandemics, or so we have always thought. Antigenic shift occurs when reassortment takes place between dissimilar flu strains. For previous descriptions of drift and shift, reassortment and recombination, just search this blogsite and Google the terms as well.

But what if antigenic shift occurs within the H1N1 subtype itself? Is the resultant virus truly a pandemic candidate? Is this what occurred in 1946-47? Is this what occurred in 1951? Scientists think so. From Science Daily of March 7, 2008:

ScienceDaily (Mar. 7, 2008) — The exchange of genetic material between two closely related strains of the influenza A virus may have caused the 1947 and 1951 human flu epidemics, according to biologists. The findings could help explain why some strains cause major pandemics and others lead to seasonal epidemics.

Until now, it was believed that while reassortment -- when human influenza viruses swap genes with influenza viruses that infect birds -- causes severe pandemics, such as the 'Spanish' flu of 1918, the 'Asian' flu of 1957, and the 'Hong Kong' flu of 1968, while viral mutation leads to regular influenza epidemics. But it has been a mystery why there are sometimes very severe epidemics -- like the ones in 1947 and 1951 -- that look and act like pandemics, even though no human-bird viral reassortment event occurred.

"There was a total vaccine failure in 1947. Researchers initially thought there was a problem in manufacturing the vaccine, but they later realized that the virus had undergone a tremendous evolutionary change," said Martha Nelson, lead author and a graduate student in Penn State's Department of Biology. "We now think that the 1947 virus did not just mutate a lot, but that this unusual virus was made through a reassortment event involving two human viruses.

"So we have found that the bipolar way of looking at influenza evolution is incorrect, and that reassortment can be an important driver of epidemic influenza as well as pandemic influenza," said Nelson, whose team's findings appear in the current issue of PLoS Pathogens. "We have discovered that you can also have reassortment between viruses that are much more similar, that human viruses can reassort with each other and not just with bird viruses. " (bold mine)

Nelson and her colleagues analyzed the evolutionary patterns in the H1N1 strain of the influenza A viruses by looking at 71 whole-genome sequences sampled between 1918 and 2006 and representing 17 different countries on five continents.

Big differences in the shapes of these eight trees signified that reassortment events had occurred.

The swapping of genes between two closely related strains of the influenza A virus through reassortment may also have caused the 1951 epidemic, which looked and acted in many ways like a pandemic as well. Deaths in the United Kingdom and Canada from this epidemic exceeded those from the 1957 and 1968 pandemics.

Currently, there are many types of influenza virus that circulate only in birds, which are natural viral reservoirs. Though the viruses do not seem to cause severe disease symptoms in birds, so far three of these viral types have infected humans -- H1N1, H2N2, and H3N2.

Understanding how each strain evolves over time is crucial. H3N2 is the dominant strain and evolves much more rapidly than H1N1. So the H1N1 component of each year's flu vaccine has to be updated less often. In comparison, the H3N2 component of the vaccine has been changed four times over the past seven years.

The H1N1 virus is particularly unusual because it disappeared completely in 1957, only to mysteriously re-emerge in humans in 1977 in exactly the same form in which it had left. It is still not certain what happened to the virus during its disappearance. But since it did not evolve at all over these twenty years, "the only plausible explanation is that it was some kind of a lab escape," says Nelson, who is also affiliated with Penn State's Center for Infectious Disease Dynamics (CIDD). (bold mine)

The Penn State researcher says the study shows that the evolution of a virus is not limited to the mutation of single lineage, and that there are multiple strains co-circulating and exchanging genetic material. The H1N1 and H3N2 strains, for instance, are occasionally generating hybrid H1N2 viruses.

"If we really want effective vaccines each year, our surveillance has to be much broader than simply looking at one lineage and its evolution, and trying to figure out how it is going to evolve by mutation," said Nelson. "You have to look at a much bigger picture."

OK. So here's what this says:

We got so wrapped around the axle of looking for Bird Flu under every duck's behind, and we got so lax at a) swabbing suspected flu patients and b) sending "untyped A" samples to the CDC/WHO, that we completely got snookered (a Southern technical term) by swine H1N1. It seems reassortment between similar subtypes happens all the time (I have seen several reports confirming that H1N2 combination) that this new hybrid swine/avian/human H1N1 could very well be following a path already traveled by the H1N1 viruses of 1946-47 and 1951. 

Now let me go a bit further: The Science Daily article also says that H1N1 does not change its genetic makeup easily, nor suffer fools gladly. But its resilience cannot be underestimated. Whether it takes its place in the pantheon of pandemic viruses is yet to be known. And indeed if there is immunity to this virus from baby boomers and older prople, we are having the same argument about "pandemic or not to be a pandemic" that people had in 1947 and 1951 -- arguments still underway today. This also explains why the WHO may be very unwilling to declare a Phase 6 pandemic when this may not actually be a pandemic. Recall that a pandemic by definition includes, at its core, a virus with little to no immunity in the general population.

If billions of people are over age 52, then the criteria for a pandemic virus has not been met -- yet. I say "yet" because I want to also talk about another statistic. And that is that it only took a few years from the 1951 epidemic to the total disappearance of H1N1 in 1957. Recall that influenza plays King of the Mountain. The year 1951 began H1N1's Farewell Tour, although now in retrospect it was one of those Cher/Streisand faux farewell tours, meaning "Farewell until the next big tour's big fat paycheck."

So which influenza strain will knock H1N1 back off the mountain? Will it be H5N1? A return of H2N2? You know, there is a developing consensus that pandemic viruses recycle themselves every three to four generations. When there are no more immune people to get in the way of a massive infection wave ( categorized as a lack of "herd immunity"), then an older virus energizes itself and springs forward.

Nobody knows what will happen with swine H1N1. But once again, if history is to tell us anything, it is that influenza is wildly unpredictable and we need to be prepared for anything. And we need to look closely at 1951 and 1946-47 for more immediate answers. Fortunately, many of those who researched those epidemics/pandemics are still with us. Let's use their talents and mine their recollections and get busy.

Catching up on H1N1 swine flu -- a digest of recent events 

Avid readers,

This is as much for my own benefit as it is yours. I have been "out of pocket" with family medical matters for the past two weeks, and as you can tell, my blogging and Tweeting volumes have suffered. It is important for new readers to know (and especially to my followers on Twitter) that I do not blog or Tweet unless I have something to say that I think will help the cause or further debate.

OK, here's what we know. Swine H1 has exploded across the globe, which we all suspected would take place. It is everywhere, and the cases are too numerous to count, despite attempts to actually count them (more on that later).

It is also kind of futile to simply track the number of cases actually testing positive. As Ian Holm said in The Day After Tomorrow, "That time has come and gone, my friend." In the Internet Age, and with all the powerful real-time surveillance tools at our disposal, we still have no earthly idea how many positive swine H1 cases we have in our own municipalities, let alone the world. So counting is best left to the historians.

Is it any wonder then that we constantly mark up the number of dead from the 1918 pandemic? What started with some 20+ million dead from authors Beveridge and Crosby has grown to 50-100 million with Barry and Kolata. Personally, considering the later historical reports from China and India, I lean toward the latter numbers. I also say this because I know John Barry (The Great Influenza) and his research methods are beyond question.

So how many people have swine H1? According to the CDC, we should not be surprised if upwards of 100,000 are currently infected. I estimated just about that number a couple of weeks ago. It is an algorithm that one can work quickly in one's head -- or gut, more appropriately. It is a gut feeling that if we had, say, 4,000 positive results, many times that are actually infected. And considering how far behind all the public health agencies are in testing, we are actually constantly looking backward, rather than looking forward with these estimates. It's like steering by one's own wake, or driving via the rear-view mirror. We need to stop looking behind us and start looking forward again.

Los Alamos in New Mexico specializes in such algorithms and estimates. The CDC has probably been on the horn with them many, many times since the first outbreaks in Mexico, asking what the Big Board would look like in a few weeks.

What is equally clear is that we are now seeing what we did not see three weeks ago:sustained chain human transmission in this country and abroad. Japanese teenagers are dropping like flies from this malady. So are American teenagers. A recent Washington Post article showed where the virus is hitting hardest: young people ages 5 to 24. According to the article,

Compared with seasonal outbreaks, all flu pandemics cause a higher percentage of severe cases and deaths in younger groups. Although the overall mortality rate from the current swine flu is low, this trend is already apparent.

Last Thursday, when Fukuda announced that the global death total was 65, he noted that "half of them are healthy people who have no predisposing conditions. This is a pattern different from what we see with normal influenza."

There have been too few deaths in the United States to draw any conclusions. But of the 173 people who have been sick enough to be hospitalized, more than half are in the 5-to-24 age group.

Also, of great interest to this blogger, is the reference to the "mini-pandemic" of 1977. I have referred to this many, many times over the past three years, and it is gratifying to read confirmation of same in a newspaper as respected as the Post:

A variety of H1N1 strains circulated from 1918 to 1957, then disappeared for two decades. In 1977, however, an H1N1 strain surfaced that was nearly identical to the previous one, so much so that scientists suspect it was an accidental release from a lab freezer. It caused a pandemic -- Russian flu -- that was largely limited to people younger than 25, whose immune systems had never experienced H1N1.

The lab accident theory behind the 1977 epidemic is not universal, but anything is possible.  If you search this blogsite for the ongoing series "When labs attack," you will become convinced such things are indeed possible.  I believe it was Dr. Edwin D. Kilbourne, the Pope of Influenza before Webster inherited the vestments, who offered a contrary opinion that the virus was ID'ed in China prior to its typing in the Soviet Union.  Kilbourne is still with us and still offering counsel, as evidenced by the Post article.  that is excellent:  We need All Hands on deck for this almost-certain pandemic.

In fact, a dust-up of a sort occurred when veteran retired (I mean a veteran who is now retired, not a veteran of being retired) influenza researcher postulated openly that swine H1 was another accidental lab release into the wild.  Or a release that quickly reassorted with another strain.  Both the WHO and CDC are unconvinced, and have denied its plausibility.  Considering who the man was (Dr. Adrian Gibbs) and who the man worked with (Drs. Robert Webster and the late, great Graeme Laver), he was absolutely qualified to venture his hypothesis.  Gibbs had worked on the research that ultimately led to the development of Tamiflu itself.  Gibbs, Laver and Webster all swabbed birds' buttholes on an Australian beach, collecting influenza samples that they used to write the research that led to the breakthrough.

Gibbs' point was not that some costumed supervillain was conjuring up rogue flu viruses in a lab; believe me, no one is that good.  Only nature/God is capable of such randomness that could lead to a new flu virus.  Gibbs' point is that influenza for vaccines is still grown in eggs, like they did sixty years ago.  And these influenza strains can "drift" during the manufacturing process.  Think how hard it is to mix paint at your local hardware store if even a single extra drop of color seeps in.  Well, as flu grows, its RNA makes bad copies of itself, and the virus can mutate -- or "drift" -- beyond the target specified by the WHO.  Many, many batches of flu vaccine may be, and have been, destroyed each flu season as the virus drifts beyond the specs listed for that seasonal strain by the WHO. This also happened in 1976 during the development of the first swine flu vaccine. 

Gibbs also postulated that influenza grown for research purposes might have done the same thing.  the key here is biosecurity.  How much or how little is the question.  Again, refer to my "When labs attack" series for background.

So back to the issue at hand: We must not be focused on the minutae of positive test results. We need to start looking at, and tabulating,absenteeism in schools and the workplace. That is the indicator of where the virus has gone and the extent of its penetration into our communities.

That is also the logic behind the Google project to track pandemic developments by the number of targeted "hits" on Websites dealing with the treatment of influenza. Of course, you need to develop a baseline, and have a way to eliminate "chatter" that might come from people who read this blog, for example. But the possibilities are there, and any method of surveillance is helpful if it can be proven to be helpful. I guess Google will get back to us on that one.

There has been a lot of hand-wringing over the issue of closing schools and borders and such, both in the US and abroad. Everyone needs to remember that these steps, in the aggregate, are nothing more than delaying actions -- like a rear guard action in combat, which this surely is. We are trying to slow the advance of the virus, not stop it in its tracks. It is flat-out impossible to stop influenza in its tracks. The virus is just too good at what it does.  Only influenza can stop influenza.

There is a group of persons who were calling upon the world health community to allow this new virus to burn its way around the globe quickly, hypothetically allowing it to confer immunity while it was still relatively mild. This theory is interesting but ultimately does not hold water. Here's why not:

First, delaying the spread allows us precious time to study the virus, to try and understand its genetic makeup, and to prepare a vaccine candidate.

Second, because seasonal H1N1 holds the dreaded Tamiflu resistance gene, (and you should know from reading my recent and past blogs exactly what that is), the faster swine H1 does its Magellan impression, the more likely it is to pick up that gene more quickly. that would render the world's entire stockpile of Tamiflu useless against a new pandemic.

Already, CDC and WHO are recommending the use of Tamiflu only to treat those in high-risk groups: The immuno-compromised (chemotherapy patients, HIV/AIDS patients, COPD, pregnant women, etc.). And maybe or maybe not the elderly. This is being done in an effort not to over-prescribe Tamiflu, which scientists fear could lead to Tamiflu resistance. But as we know today, the acquisition of the Tamiflu resistance gene has absolutely nothing to do with the overprescription of Tamiflu itself. If it did, Japan would be completely lost, because doctors there (who profit from prescriptions they write) prescribe Tamiflu like American doctors prescribe Motrin. Why do you think the Japanese discovered the possibility that youthful sufferers of influenza, dosed with Tamiflu, might jump off buildings? because they had such a large statistical sample to work with.

Third and finally, hastening the circumnavigation of the world by a new pandemic virus ruins any chance we might have to re-educate the masses on pandemic preparedness. Slowing the spread allows precious time to plan, to educate, to train and to prepare. Of course we should have been doing those things already. But people and organizations procrastinate.

I wanted to return to the topic of Tamiflu-related suicides among Japanese teenagers (Google it if you are unfamiliar). This is why Roche created Childrens Tamiflu, which is available in a smaller dosage than adult Tamiflu. If you have a young child who is diagnosed with swine H1N1, you should ask your doctor about Childrens Tamiflu as an alternative to regular Tamiflu. I am not aware of any Childrens Tamiflu in the Strategic National Stockpile, because the Stockpile began before Roche began the manufacture of the kids' dosage. Again, check with your doctor if you have a child under the age of 16 who is swine H1-positive.

OK, I think I/we are all caught up now.

Geek out on great new Swine Flu Wiki, Branswell Tweets

It is safe to say I am very far behind on that promised blog regarding the construction of this swine H1N1 virus. But that's not a bad thing, because I have stumbled across a new Wiki dedicated to sharing information on the construction of this new virus. It is titled "Human/Swine A/H1N1 Influenza Origins and Evolution," and is located at: http://tree.bio.ed.ac.uk/groups/influenza/ . 

A note of caution: It is for professional influenza researchers, but is also great fun for influenza geeks who have at least a passing knowledge of the structure of influenza and how it picks up its polymorphisms. It is also important to have some sort of working knowledge of the structure of the flu virus itself. If you know what HA, NA and MP stand for, you re aready to proceed. Otherwise, you might want to hit Google and get smart on the influenza virus' composition before proceeding there.

Laypeople can see, at first glance, one big amazing point; namely, influenza picks up genetic markers like seasoned travelers used to put destination stickers on their luggage, or like Russian generals put ribbons on their chests. The diversity of genetic markers and their initial points of discovery (A/New York, A/Texas, A/Florida, etc.) point to the diversity of genes that make up the most facsinating virus on the planet.

I found this Wiki through an NPR article that I found by stumbling upon the Twittersite of Helen Branswell. I have been a huge fan (how cliche) of Ms. Branswell's work ever since I dove head-first into this topic some three years ago. She writes for the Canadian Press and I consider her one of the top two infectious disease reporters on the planet. Her Twitter address is @CP_Branswell and I encourage you to follow her Tweets. She'll make you smarter in no time!

 

Swine flu: Why Egypt wants to kill all the pigs

Intrepid reader,

Last week, I blogged about the possibilities of swine H1N1 to graft other genes onto its genetic construction. I have mentioned my concern that swine H1N1 could, in fact, easily pick up the amino acid combo which, in the aggregate, represents the Tamiflu Resistance Gene.

I also alluded to the potential for swine H1N1 to take a victory lap around the world and reassort with our old friend H5N1. Now I mentioned this only in passing. The reason should be obvious: A number of persons believe this whole H1N1 thing is either a gross overreaction by public health professionals, and/or a ploy by the Obama Administration to advance its public health agenda.

It is neither, although every time I hear an Obama official even mention health care "homes" in the same breath as H1N1, I cringe, because they need to put the Rahm Emanuel playbook down ("Rule 1: Never allow a crisisto go to waste") during this entire evolving event.  It is important to know that the Obama Administration is essentially running the Bush playbook on the management of this epidemic, and they have acknowledged as much and have been publicly grateful for its existence. So far, I have not seen any major mistakes, mea culpas or blown calls in the response to this unfolding situation out of Washington, excepting the Vice-President-in-charge-of-embarrassing-gaffes and soon to be Lame Duck, Joe Biden.  And even he was saying what everyone else was thinking, I suppose.  Still, as a recovering politician myself, I am amazed at this guy's lack of an "internal quip governor" (think NASCAR restrictor plate) and how Obama allowed him to get on the ticket. 

But I digress.  Back to the issue at hand, namely reassortment.  Bloggers have been understandably reluctant to stray too far into joining swine H1N1 with avian H5N1.  But when the world's leading influenza expert -- the "Pope of Influenza," Dr. Robert G. Webster of St. Jude in Memphis -- comes out and says what everyone else in Flublogia is thinking, I think it warrants a good blog.

Dr. Webster has dedicated his entire adult life to the understanding of influenza. He has learned much, but each answer generates a whole new set of questions. He, Edwin Kilbourne, John Oxford, and the late Graeme Laver stand as the true giants of modern influenza research. Upon their footpaths walk Kawaoka, Peiris, Webby (like Peiris, a protege of Webster) and others.

Kawaoka has taken some ribbing from this Blogger in the past, but let me assure you he knows his stuff and the world is a better place with him and all his skills on board.

When Webster talks, or even speculates, it is by definition informed, and we should do the old E. F. Hutton commercial and listen. Today, an AP article -- one of the best-researched I have read in quite some time -- speaks of the opportunity for swine H1N1 to reassort with avian H5N1 and produce -- something.  One treat is that it quotes from three of the best-known names on the influenza front, which is always fun.

I will give the article and its link later. What I want to talk about now is the situation in Egypt, and why the Egyptian government made the controversial move to slaughter all its pigs virtually overnight. Something feels Biblical in that decision, you know. It was met with hostility and violent demonstrations across the nation. Only Christians eat pork there, and the hogs slaughtered were destined only for Egyptian Christian dinnertables.

But I believe the Egyptian government had its own experience and that of Indonesia on its mind when it made the decision. The Egyptian government has been looking for a reason to wipe out the hog population since 2008, because there was and is growing concern that Egyptian pigs had become reservoirs for H5N1. Search "Egypt" on my blogsite to find everything of consequence that has happened in that country, flu-wise, since 2006. I'll wait. Especially read my January, 2008 blog here. It has a pretty graphic, too.

OK, welcome back. You should have seen the blog post fromEgyptian blogger Zeinobia, whose blog from January 2008 -- yes, I said January 2008 -- was an eerie foreshadowing of our current situation.

Short form: The Egyptian government is scared to death that H1N1 will come around and reassort with H5N1, which they believe to possibly be endemic in their pig population.  And if you look at the continuing increase in suspected and confirmed Egyptian H5N1 human bird flu cases, I think you'd agree there is much to be concerned about.

Likewise, the situation in Indonesia and in China also involoves informed speculation on behalf of animal and human influenza researchers that H5N1 may have made a small foothold in the hog populations there. Especially Indonesia, which remains Bird Flu Central for human cases and potential pandemic explosion, despite the competition from ongoing Egyptian human infections. Researchers already know that some 20% of the stray cat population in Indonesia has H5N1 antibodies. Likewise, some hogs in Indonesia have tested positive for H5N! antibodies. From the Website FluWiki, from2006:

Cat H5N1 sequences in Indonesia are apparently more similar to H5N1 sequences from humans than either are to H5N1 sequences from birds. What is the most logical interpretation of these results? I submit that there may be a mammalian reservoir for H5N1 in Indonesia and other countries and that H5N1 is under selection to adapt to mammals in this reservoir. Further, at least some of the human cases may be due to mammal-to-human infections. (See also Dr. Jeremijenko’s post at 23:14 in this thread, and here and here). In the recent large cluster of human cases in Indonesia, no infections of poultry were found in close proximity to the village where the outbreak occured. However, pigs with antibodies to H5N1 were found in this region reference. H5N1 infections in pigs would be particularly worrisome as these animals could serve as mixing vessels for the formation of a human-adapted H5N1 strain. (bold mine)

That is what everyone is worried about. That is the Elephant in the Room. That is why no one in Geneva, Atlanta or anywhere else is overreacting about this swH1H1 epidemic.

Now it is time to bring in the AP story. Here it is, in its entirety.

Top flu expert warns of a swine flu-bird flu mix

By MARGIE MASON, AP Medical Writer Margie Mason, Ap Medical Writer 2hrs29minsago

MEXICO CITY – Bird flu kills more than 60 percent of its human victims, but doesn't easily pass from person to person. Swine flu can be spread with a sneeze or handshake, but kills only a small fraction of the people it infects.

So what happens if they mix?

This is the scenario that has some scientists worried: The two viruses meet — possibly in Asia, where bird flu is endemic — and combine into a new bug that is both highly contagious and lethal and can spread around the world.

Scientists are unsure how likely this possibility is, but note that the new swine flu strain — a never-before-seen mixture of pig, human and bird viruses — has shown itself to be especially adept at snatching evolutionarily advantageous genetic material from other flu viruses.

"This particular virus seems to have this unique ability to pick up other genes," said leading virologist Dr. Robert Webster, whose team discovered an ancestor of the current flu virus at a North Carolina pig farm in 1998.

The current swine flu strain — known as H1N1 — has sickened more than 2,300 people in 24 countries. While people can catch bird flu from birds, the bird flu virus — H5N1 — does not easily jump from person to person. It has killed at least 258 people worldwide since it began to ravage poultry stocks in Asia in late 2003.

The World Health Organization reported two new human cases of bird flu on Wednesday. One patient is recovering in Egypt, while another died in Vietnam — a reminder that the H5N1 virus is far from gone.

"Do not drop the ball in monitoring H5N1," WHO Director-General Margaret Chan told a meeting of Asia's top health officials in Bangkok on Friday by video link. "We have no idea how H5N1 will behave under the pressure of a pandemic."

Experts have long feared that bird flu could mutate into a form that spreads easily among people. The past three flu pandemics — the 1918 Spanish flu, the 1957-58 Asian flu and the Hong Kong flu of 1968-69 — were all linked to birds, though some scientists believe pigs also played a role in 1918.

Webster, who works at St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tenn., said bird flu should be a worry now. Bird flu is endemic in parts of Asia and Africa, and cases of swine flu have already been confirmed in South Korea and Hong Kong.

"My great worry is that when this H1N1 virus gets into the epicenters for H5N1 in Indonesia, Egypt and China, we may have real problems," he told The Associated Press. "We have to watch what's going on very diligently now."

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are extraordinarily busy trying to understand the swine flu virus itself, and haven't had time to break off staff to look at the possibility of a swine flu-bird flu mix, spokesman Dave Daigle said.

Malik Peiris, a flu expert at Hong Kong University, said the more immediate worry is that swine flu will mix with regular flu viruses, as flu season begins in the Southern Hemisphere. It is unclear what such a combination would produce.

But he said there are indications that scenario is possible. Peiris noted that the swine flu virus jumped from a farmworker in Canada and infected about 220 pigs. The worker and the pigs recovered, but the incident showed how easily the virus can leap to a different species.

"It will get passed back to pigs and then probably go from pigs to humans," Peiris said. "So there would be opportunities for further reassortments to occur with viruses in pigs."

He said so far bird flu hasn't established itself in pigs — but that could change.

"H5N1 itself has not got established in pigs," he said. "If that were to happen and then these two viruses were both established in pigs in Asia, that would be quite a worrying scenario."

Michael Osterholm, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Minnesota who has advised the U.S. government on flu preparations, said while flu experts are discussing the scenario, he has yet to see specific evidence causing him to think it will happen.

"Everything with influenza is a huge guessing game because Mother Natureholds all the rules, and we don't even know what they are, so anything's possible," he said. "We don't have any evidence that this particular reassortment is that much more likely to pick up H5N1 than any other reassortment out there."

"We don't have to put these things together," he added. "This is not chocolate and peanut butter running into each other in the dark hallway."

But there is in fact discussion of putting them together — in a high-security laboratory — to see what a combination would look like, according to Webster. Similar tests have been done at the CDC mixing bird flu and seasonal human flu, resulting in a weak product, he said.

Daigle, the CDC spokesman, said the agency wants to look at the question in the future.

Webster has done groundbreaking work on both swine and bird flus in his 40-year career, and has followed the evolution of the current swine flu strain from a virus that sickened a handful of people who worked with North Carolina hogs into a bug that has spread from person to person around the world.

He is closely involved in the global effort to analyze what the virus might do next. It has killed 42 people in Mexico and two in Texas, but so far has not proven very deadly elsewhere, leading to some criticism that the World Health Organization's warnings of a potential pandemic have been overblown.

Webster said underestimating the swine flu virus would be a huge mistake.

"This H1N1 hasn't been overblown. It's a puppy, it's an infant, and it's growing," he said. "This virus has got the whole human population in the world to breed in — it's just happened. What we have to do is to watch it, and it may become a wimp and disappear, or it may become nasty."

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AP Medical Writer Maria Cheng in London contributed to this report.

So there you go.  I hope wimp, but no one knows what it will do eventually.  However, it is this worry that, I believe, has led the Egyptian government to do what it could not do last year; namely, slaughter the mixing vessels of influenza.  They do not want the Next Pandemic to start on their doorstep.  In that regard, and now knowing what you know, let me ask you:  Have they made the correct decision?